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Old Mar 23, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07   #1
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The PC Gamer article has stated "You won't have the option to migrate characters from Guild Wars 1 to Guild Wars 2..." This is probably THE most desired feature among those who look at the transition from GW1 and GW2 with trepidation. I thought such a feature would be a no-brainer until I considered why Anet might not want us to transfer our GW 1 characters:

1) GW2 is suppose to take place hundreds of years in the future. All our beloved GW 1 characters would rightfully be dead.
2) GW2 is an entirely new and different game. Every GW player needs to re-learn the game mechanics and leveling new characters from scratch would teach us how the new system works.
3) Anet does not want GW2 to initially be flooded with high level characters. That would create a barrier for entry for those starting out in GW 2 who hadn't played the first game.

My proposal is for Ancestral Characters, a way to have our cake and eat it too

Addressing Problem #1: Temporal Anomaly
Hundreds of years into the future, Koss is dead, Devona is dead, and [insert favorite character's name] is--you guessed it, dead! But what is death to the heroes who closed the Door of Komalie, defeated Shiro the Betrayer, and slew a god? There is a place that exists for such legends, and it is called the Hall of Heroes, where the souls of those who have saved the world rest. In Tyria's bleakest hour, wouldn't the gods see fit to release these heroes of old so that they could bring salvation? A story of how the gods called upon ancient champions to assist mortals could be used to explain how GW 1 characters show up in Tyria hundreds of years after the events in Eye of the North.

Addressing Problem #2: Brave New World
Ok, so you have a level 20 character because you transfered your toon from GW 1, but you haven't the foggiest idea how to jump, slide, or hit a mob with your Ugly Stick. But wait... what if in order to transfer characters to GW 2 you must first commune with the gods and petition them for help! Anet could make sure GW 1 players go through all the proper tutorials and get their GW 2 training by requiring a native GW 2 character to reach a certain skill level before GW 1 characters can be transfered to that account.

Addressing Problem #3: No Pain, No Gain!
New Player: "Hey, how come you have a level 20 character just because you played GW 1, while I had to start my guy at level 1?"
Old Player: "Listen kid, before I could petition Balthazar for the aid of my ancestors, I had to prove I was worthy. I paid my dues, believe you me!"

The nearest great temple of Balthazar is at the edge of a volcano, guarded by scores of level 24 fire drakes, a level 35 Charr shaman boss, and the demon prince Menzies himself! Anet could require Herculean trials before allowing characters to be transfered from GW 1. If a native GW 2 character has to climb Mt. Doom to free his GW 1 ancestors, he himself would have to be high level, and by that time having access to level 20 characters would not be a big deal.

I am only guessing at the reasons why Anet does not plan to support character transfers from GW 1 to GW 2. However, whatever their reasons, I am sure they could be overcome. Please do not dismiss this request out of hand, this is at the top of the list of what your fans want!

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Old Mar 23, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57   #2
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GW2 will use different character models and wont have the same skills. Well let's say to get around that, when you transfered you character you remake it as though it were a new character and you start out with just the basic skills like regular new GW2 characters. To that end, what are you even transferring anymore? Names themselves and the titles you earned will be transferring already, so really the only thing that isn't getting transferred is the amount of xp you earned. It's a whole new game, start a whole new character. Don't be lazy and say I want my old character to carry over just 'cause it's got a couple mil xp already and I don't want to have to lvl.

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Old Mar 23, 2007, 11:14 AM // 11:14   #3
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Nice idea, but its not going to work, sorry. Just let our heroes names remain in the Halls
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30   #4
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i agree with Knightsaber
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33   #5
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Would be nice, but GW2 is going to be way too different =/
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 12:44 PM // 12:44   #6
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52   #7
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Their not going to transfer characters....

...get used to it!

As you said, they have legit reason not do it, so why then make an entire thread to try and get around those legit reasons.

Transfering characters would completely kill the life span of the game, because you would be entering it with fully crafted characters who could cake-walk the entire first half or quarter of the game.

It would be like reading the last page of a book first.

Where is the challenge in that? Get used to it.
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59   #8
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Their not going to transfer characters....

...get used to it!

As you said, they have legit reason not do it, so why then make an entire thread to try and get around those legit reasons.

Transfering characters would completely kill the life span of the game, because you would be entering it with fully crafted characters who could cake-walk the entire first half or quarter of the game.

It would be like reading the last page of a book first.

Where is the challenge in that? Get used to it.
Sometimes that just encourages you to finish the book if it has a superb ending.
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32   #9
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I was hoping to transfer my beloved main chars over, but I can accept that its a whole new game, new start, and I find that quite exciting aswell.

People are saying 'titles can be taken over!!' Which to me, is great, cos I've worked hard on my titles especially lucky/wisdom/treasure hunter, BUT is there actual proof of this?

Forgive me if its started in the article, as The PC Gamer issue is not in my hands yet and wont be released in UK for another month, so all I've not had the privilidge of reading it yet.

However upon reading all I've come across to do with titles being transferred from GW1 to GW2 is Gaile Grey saying something about 'A Hall of Monuments'...now, does anyone REALLY have any idea what this is yet?

Because as great as it would be to keep my titles, I completely doubt I'll be able to run round with devourer of wisdom when I first start GW2.
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40   #10
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^Gaile told us about the title thing, the magazine just vaguely mentions it. The hall of monuments has a statues of GW1 characters. You build it through quests in Eye of the North. The statue displays that character's titles in some manner. If you link your GW2 account to your GW1 account, and name a GW2 character the same as one of your GW1 character- it will automatically get its titles.

One point I must stress, the Hall of Monuments is not a means to transfer items/weapons from GW1 to GW2 like most people seem to think it is.

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Old Mar 23, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04   #11
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^Gaile told us about the title thing, the magazine just vaguely mentions it. The hall of monuments has a statues of GW1 characters. You build it through quests in Eye of the North. The statue displays that character's titles in some manner. If you link your GW2 account to your GW1 account, and name a GW2 character the same as one of your GW1 character- it will automatically get its titles.

One point I must stress, the Hall of Monuments is not a means to transfer items/weapons from GW1 to GW2 like most people seem to think it is.
Okay that sounds great, thanks for clearing that up for me ^^

I really don't care about the items or weapons, sure I worked hard for them but its a new game, there'll be tonnes of new weapons/armour so I wouldn't agree with them being transferrable anyways =)
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #12
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Since GW2 beta won't even start for another year and there are 2 threads like this already, please help keep the forum tidy by posting GW2 ideas here:


EDIT:
Please see the new GW2 Suggestion thread.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10135261

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